The Regeneration Effect: The Secret Technology of Eastern Medicine

0:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

Dr. Yi Song: Western medicine and eastern medicine are not just different techniques. If you have heart problem, if you have liver problem, it may be originated from somewhere else. So you're looking at one tree instead of the whole forest. Your body builds up toxins and certain areas can develop cancer or autoimmune conditions. If you know that you can actually prevent these things from coming, you will address these imbalances early on without even a lot of symptoms. Well, in my opinion, it's a revolution.

J. Loren Norris: Hey, welcome back to Story Power TV. I am your host, J. Loren Norris. It is so awesome to be with you again and to be back in our own studio. We've been traveling all over the world, but we have a series of guests in the studio today and I think you're going to have some fun with them. These are people who actually traveled to Texas to spend time with us. The Story Power Academy retreat was this last week and so we've had a chance to really dig into the power of story and communication and it's a big deal.

Now, one of the people who's been a part of that, we've been acquaintances and doing work together for about 6 months now is a lady who actually flew here from Colombia via Puerto Rico and Boston. And she's a world traveler like Gulliver, all over the place. But she's sitting down with me to talk today about her brand new book that's coming out very soon. You should pre-order it now because it's really well in my opinion it's a revolution. So help me welcome to the studio Dr. Yi Song, author of The Regeneration Effect.

Now the subtitle of Regeneration Effect is Secret Wisdom for Staying Young. Secret wisdom for staying young. And I think one of the most fascinating things I heard when you and I first met was the idea that western medicine and eastern medicine are not just different techniques, they're different technologies. It's a completely different mindset. Is that right? Completely different philosophy, different approach.

1:58 Western Reductionism Explained

Dr. Yi Song: So tell me what makes them so different to start with. So western medicine is reductionism. So they try to look into cells, molecules and study one molecule thinking if we block that one molecule then we can fix the problem the disease that's caused by some malfunction or irregularity of that particular molecule. Okay? So you're looking at one tree instead of the whole forest.

J. Loren Norris: So you're looking at the granular level and asking what does this molecule, this DNA molecule, this lipid, whatever, what impact does it have on the rest of the body rather than asking how does the body handle that thing? Am I on the right track?

Dr. Yi Song: Yes. Eastern medicine looks at it in a different way and what does that look like from the eastern as you said philosophy. What does that look like? So they will look at the whole body as a whole garden. And so anything going wrong can be from malfunction from various parts of the body, not just the particular parts. If you have heart problem, if you have liver problem, it may be originated from somewhere else.

J. Loren Norris: So a heart problem isn't a heart problem. If you say somebody has a heart attack, yes, it is a heart problem. But is it the heart that caused it? The origin of the heart problem can be from other things that's accumulating over time that manifests as heart problem.

Dr. Yi Song: It shows up in the heart but it didn't originate in the heart. Yes. Gotcha.

3:30 The Garden Metaphor

J. Loren Norris: So when you say garden I think of a cultivated garden where you know what's growing there. You give it the right kind of food or the right kind of supplements. I mean if you've got dandelions some people call those weeds and they put Roundup on them. Other people call them food and they put salad dressing on them. So how you look at your garden is completely different in the way you treat it. Is that right? Yes. So how does that translate to the body?

Dr. Yi Song: So the garden if your body is like a garden then your whole body has a irrigation system that has to reach every part of the body if it functions correctly. But we have many things that can cause malfunction in the irrigation system. So if the irrigation system gets blocked in certain place then it can affects many parts of the body. If that particular irrigation system that's blocked is going towards different parts of the several parts of the body depending on where it's blocked.

4:36 Energy Circulation Channels

J. Loren Norris: So my very limited knowledge of the human body, I think of systems, the circulatory system, the respiratory system, the thyroid system, the digestive system. When I think of irrigation system, I think of turn on the sprinkler and make sure the water doesn't run through the mud and wash away all the soil. Help me see the relationship between those.

Dr. Yi Song: So the irrigation system in eastern philosophy and medicine refers to the energy circulation. The energy circulation system in Chinese medicine, it circulates in channels in your body.

J. Loren Norris: And the channels like Reiki channels? I mean, is that a am I on the right track or is that something totally up?

Dr. Yi Song: You can imagine it's some kind of imaginary blood vessel type of channel. So, there's energy flowing in the channel and each channel is connected to different organs inside your body. That's why there are 12 main channels in in Chinese medicine. And then when you do meditation or acupuncture, you're actually affecting the energy flow inside the channels. And then when you affect the energy flow inside the channels, you can also affect the organs that are connected to that particular channel.

6:15 Environmental Frequency Impacts

J. Loren Norris: So I know that for an example, if you get electrified, a lot of people will say the word electrocuted, but electrocuted usually means dead. Electrified means an electrical charge has run through your body from head to toe. And I know people have lost their whole foot because they grabbed something powerful and it went through. I also know though that on a smaller scale of that, people who sleep with their phone under their pillow have an electrical charge going into their head. Every time the phone sends and receives an email, it's blasting out EMFs and unseeable microwaves into their head. So, how do those things standing in front of your microwave, sleeping with your head on your pillow, having a radio with Bluetooth going all night long, how do those things impact these energy channels you're talking about?

Dr. Yi Song: So, I think that will affect your energy flow somewhat. And also in Chinese medicine, in different channels, you have peak energy at different time of the day. So, like from 11:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. is liver time and 1:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. is gallbladder time. So, that means 11:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. is the peak energy flow in the liver channel. And then from 1 to 3:00 a.m. would be the gallbladder channel and 3 to 5 would be the lung channel. So, it follows 24 hours.

7:41 Circadian Peak Timing

J. Loren Norris: If there's a timing, then am I understanding that it flows from this place to this place? Like it's here at 1:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. and then from 3:00 a.m. it moves to another place. I mean like is it like a little boat in a river?

Dr. Yi Song: I think in all the channels constantly 24 hours you have the energy flow but the peak energy is like maybe you can imagine a globule of energy that's moving the main one to another peak then that would be following this clock.

J. Loren Norris: Okay so see if I can put this so like a bus station right if I'm following the bus around and it's at Grand Central Station at 2 p.m. And it's at the YMCA at 4:00 p.m. And it's at the school at 6:00 p.m. Every day at 6 p.m. If I go there, there's the bus. But the bus takes itself there. And the energy of people getting on and off the bus happens when the energy when the bus arrives, that's when all the interchange happens. So is the energy arriving in the liver and that's what's causing all the peak energy or is it the liver is now doing its thing?

Dr. Yi Song: I think mainly the liver time the peak energy time is the liver when liver is mainly processing doing its thing. That's why 11 to 1:00 a.m. is very important for people to be sleeping because that's a time the liver would gather all the blood flow and then detoxify.

9:13 Sleep and Detoxification

J. Loren Norris: Before I ever heard the word circadian rhythm, I was in the fire department in the Air Force and my schedule was Monday to Wednesday, I worked from 3:00 p.m. to midnight. And Wednesday or Thursday, Friday, Saturday, I worked from midnight till 8:00 a.m. And on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday of the next week, I would work from 8:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. And then I would have two days off. And then I would start the cycle over again.

Dr. Yi Song: So like we still use the liver as a example from 11:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. you're supposed to be sleeping. Then that's when liver can get all the blood gathered more in the liver. So then they can do the detoxification, right? But if you are not sleeping then the liver cannot detoxify retract the blood more because it has to supply your energy for your staying up. So then the liver cannot detoxify as well because it doesn't have the backflow of the blood to the liver to do its work at the peak energy. And then once you miss that time then say if you sleep at 4:00 p.m. or 7:00 a.m. you go to bed. At that time the peak energy in liver already passed. So then it doesn't have the efficiency to process.

11:49 Toxic Accumulation Risks

J. Loren Norris: So what happens then to the body when that blood is not detoxed the way the liver is supposed to be doing it?

Dr. Yi Song: So then your body build up the toxin because it's not detoxified when it's supposed to be doing. This is not really talking about like in our understanding like bacteria, virus or those type of thing. It's more like energetically toxin. So then if over time you build up this toxin that's supposed to be detoxified outside of your body while you're sleeping but then you are not sleeping so it's not done correctly efficiently. This has to go on for maybe more than 10 years. Then something can happen basically like the blockage of the irrigation system we started out with. Then once that happens then certain area can develop cancer or autoimmune conditions.

Dr. Yi Song: It's more like even breast cancer or stomach cancer and that's because the blood isn't doing its thing because cycling the way it should because when the liver function is affected because of your lifestyle schedule is wrong not according to the natural cycle then basically that affects the whole garden irrigation system. So then you will have because liver in Chinese medicine actually is the organ that governs the blood flow inside the body. So if you have blockage then certain area cannot basically be efficiently monitored by your immune system. So then the immune system is the system that monitors any cancer cells any growth of irregular cells. So if your immune system are not eradicating the mutated cells as fast as they should be then over time the mutated cells accumulate. This always take over 10 years of time usually to accumulate.

15:18 Five Elements Constitution

J. Loren Norris: Is it obvious before that 10 year cycle? Aside from looking at your sleep habit. So in your book you talk about six key principles for the regeneration effect to do its work. What are those six principles?

Dr. Yi Song: So first one we also need to recognize your body's constitution which means your body type. So each person has is born with certain body type. And in eastern philosophy we also have five elements. So wood, fire, earth, metal and water. So everybody belongs to certain element or has more propensity towards one element than the other four. It can be one aspect of the body's constitution but it also can be certain people are born with digestive system weakness like I do or certain people are born with excess heat that I do too.

17:26 Identifying Body Types

J. Loren Norris: So how do you help somebody find their constitution?

Dr. Yi Song: So you need to go through the health history to see whether you have the symptoms and then you also look at their tongue to see whether they have internal heat or they have internal cold and then you also palpate their pulse and you can tell from their facial appearance or body type. Shape of the face or the color, also even the way they talk, the voice, the low voice, high voice, pitch of the voice and also even their personality.

19:01 Early Prevention Principles

Dr. Yi Song: So, number two would be early prevention. So, once you recognize somebody's constitution, like if you know like me, I have digestive system weakness from birth, right? And also because of that I have excess phlegm building up in my body and I have some heat passed on from my mother. So then you will address these imbalances early on without even a lot of symptoms because you know they're coming or that you have the predisposition to these things.

22:09 Addressing Root Causes

J. Loren Norris: So identify the constitution, early prevention which means reading the constitution knowing probably what's coming next. And what's number three?

Dr. Yi Song: Number three is treating the root cause. So the first one, two, three actually are interlaced because in order for you to treat the root cause, you need to understand your constitution, right? That's when you can understand what's the root cause of your problem.

23:30 Following Natural Flow

Dr. Yi Song: So number four is follow the natural flow. So again because if you have blockage, if you have certain weakness that causing the blockage, then you want to follow what the natural flow is supposed to be so that you're not working against the natural circadian.

25:46 Suitability of Biohacking

Dr. Yi Song: Not everybody's body can handle getting up at 4:00 a.m. And even like people saying like biohackers they say do the red light therapy. You can actually send your sample and then they will test your DNA to tell you you're not suitable to do the red light therapy. Because for some people they do red light therapy, they feel great afterwards. But then for some people they don't feel that great. You have to look at what's the good proportion of different approaches for you to achieve the optimal health and longevity.

28:06 Tending the Garden

J. Loren Norris: Number five, tend the garden.

Dr. Yi Song: Tend the garden is taking care of each element in the cultivated garden that is your body. So doing the things that are right for your liver, doing the things that are right for your heart. When you have weakness, you have strength, then it's out of balance. Then you have to moderate them.

29:43 Acupuncture and Chiropractic

Dr. Yi Song: So in the beginning we talked about the channels, the flowing of the energy in the channels. That's the foundation of Chinese medicine. And the origin of all these concept actually came from people 6,000 years ago. They were looking for immortality in China. And they were doing advanced meditation. When they were in the advanced meditative state, they could envision the flow of the energy. That's how they discovered from 11:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. is liver time.

48:03 Stem Cells and Recovery

J. Loren Norris: So you do acupuncture, you do other holistic medicines. Like I remember you saying recently about a guy that came and got stem cells for knee pain. And he called you back two weeks later. He's like, "It's swollen." And you were like, "Yeah, send me a picture."

Dr. Yi Song: So, he had the stem cell for his knee because he had meniscus surgery three years ago and since then he still had problems. Two weeks after the injection, he actually said he feel his knee was much better. But then he started doing five squats and the next day his knee starts swelling. When he sent me the picture, the swelling is above the knee, not on the knee joint.

53:00 The I Ching Cycle

Dr. Yi Song: If you really want to talk about holy grail of eastern medicine you have to talk about I Ching. That is the highest level of cycle flow, follow the natural flow and that is the understanding of the universal cycle. It has 64 trigrams. The reason I love stem cells so much is because I think stem cell using the umbilical cord mesenchymal stem cells is sort of close to the energetic understanding in Chinese medicine and also it can affects your body through the channels.

1:02:04 Conclusion and Resources

Dr. Yi Song: Regeneration Effect, sacred wisdom for staying young. You can find that at regenerationeffect.com. You can also find out about stem cells and the retreat center in Colombia on the same website.

J. Loren Norris: And if you're still watching, you probably have a lot more questions than you had before the show started, and I'm glad you do. Go to regenerationeffect.com and send her an email. She'll be glad to answer it. I'm J. Loren Norris with Story Power TV. Have a blessed day.